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Thread #158525   Message #3753985
Posted By: Jim Carroll
27-Nov-15 - 12:14 PM
Thread Name: BS: Jingoism or Commemoration
Subject: RE: BS: Jingoism or Commemoration
You can't resist being unpleasant - can you?
"It is David Crane, who is no historian of WW1."
He is as much a Historian of WW1 than your tabloid journalist is.
Still missing the point - there has to be a point that it becomes deliberate.
I'm not the slightest bit interested in defending who won what in whatever battle - the skill of the generals was to send more men over the top to get slaughtered than the Germans did - battled of attrition.
One more time - I didn't comment on Ypres, Crane did and the Spectator ran it.
As far as I know, nobody has ever disputed what he wrote, not even Hastings.
Had he been misrepresented to the extent you pair of eejits claim he has, then there would have been blood and snot flying all over the place - certainly as prominent a Journal as 'The Spectator' would never have run it for fear of repercussions from their fellow right-wingers.
The pair of you have backed a horse that has run away with all your money -
Keith has a habit of coming with pre-set ideas then scrambling round the ether for out of context quotes to back them up, you, in your turn rushed to help this particular lame dog over his stile - both of you have ended in the clarts.
Elswhere, Hastings view of the war leadership has been described as "trenchant", he particularly targetted French for criticism.
I have not the slightest interest in the conduct of this shitty war - it was an obscenity that decimated a generation - all for political power and economic supremacy.
One Empire was as bad as the other, and the War produced cracks that led to its end - and good ****** riddance.
I don't share your Empire Loyalism and you contempt for foreigners who couldn't make their own way without our guiding hand - we were still singing hymns about being foreighn was to be "in error's chain" into the fifties, for Christ's sake!
Like Capital Punishment - all gone - no more tomorrow.
Stop avoiding the point - and stop spitting at people - you really aren't bright enough.
Just as well you didn't make the armed forces - your superiority complex would have lasted about five minutes among real soldiers.
Jim Carroll