Well shiver me timbers. I think I'm being too subtle. My original post was a sardonic observation on yet another piece of Mudcat moderatorial clumsiness. Not a complaint, not a rant against censorship or the "attack on free speech." How many times do have to say it. THIS...IS...NOT...MY...GIG. I come to the gig and I contribute. Generally speaking, I refrain from calling people names these days. I won't get specific, but at least three confounded idiots post to this thread, yet they are all given a free pass. The three confounded idiots in question all suck up to the moderators and manage to persuade them that they're harmless duffers (one of which is but two of which are decidedly not, but when you've flattered the mods you can get away with anything). I'm not a confounded idiot and I don't suck up to anyone. I'm not in anyone's team. In that thread I repeatedly challenged Joe Offer's denial and he got more and more bitter and aggressive. He called me lots of names. Don't arse about here, jumping to his defence like an automaton because you're his mate. Go and read the thread. It's much harder work to do that and do the collar work and ditch the prejudice that it is to be lazily prejudiced. My posts were detailed, to the point, reactive and direct. I asked one question over and over again, is it right to tell children lies in school about God and Jesus instead of the plain truth, which is that there is no evidence for their existence. Joe's allies alleged that the question was answered but "not to Steve's satisfaction." Well it wasn't answered AT ALL! I didn't go on that thread to be Mr Spock or to twist the knickers of believers. They managed that very well for themselves, if you read the thread.