" The issue is that people don't believe you."

Well, you seem able to speak for "people". Would you care to list the "people" who don't believe me, please? The truth is, Jeri, that you are something of a jobsworth dullard in these parts. Why, last week you were castigating people for doing that most wonderful of things on Mudcat, reopening an ancient thread with a new take. And just look how that thread took off again!

"So we have the guy who hates, not so much religion as people who are religious."

So who's he? Gosh, we have a lot of this "the guy who..." and "the usual suspects..." etcetera ad nauseam. Go on, name names. I'll take you to pieces but I won't sue you, I promise!

"I have no doubt mostly everybody knows exactly who I'm talking about, even if I haven't mentioned one single name. Telling, no?"

No, not telling. The only thing that's telling is that you're too cowardly to name names. Oh, by the way. In your litany of pejoratives (which I deleted from this post as it was far too tedious) was the description of the Catholic guy who calls people who think he's wrong to defend forcing children to be indoctrinated under crucifixes " bigots, literalists and absolutists." Did you forget, or is he your uncle?

"You look at arguments these people participate in permanently and repetitively, and you notice that it's the same people all the time, and new people don't ever get involved, and those participants not only don't have a clue what they do to the forum, but don't care. They're either stupid or numb. The repetitive nastiness drives me nuts..."

Lies. New people get involved all the time. Read the thread. You are saying what you want to be true so that you can have a stick to beat us with, but you don't check your facts. Weird. And the irony of the last half of that quote is entirely lost on you.

"Free speech doesn't exist here. Most of the people who bitch about not having it are trolls."

Name names. With your evidence, please. I haven't seen this here in this thread.