if you fecked off,I would have no one to discuss it with.
Jim can I put a question to you, Old Brown's Daughter was an English music hall song, sung by Alfred Vance, and became a Newfoundland folk song. It was written by G.W. Hunt (1839–1904).
Walter Pardon sang this song, he was described as traditional singer,these are facts do you agree/ now I know you will say Walter differentiated between his songs, but he did not use the 1954 definition. Walter sang the songs because they had been in his family? do you agree?or did he sing the songs because he liked them? or was it [which is my opinion] a bit of both, if it was a bit of both he had something in common with Jim Bainbridge, WHO SAID HE SANG A SONG BECAUSE IT WAS A GOOD SONG.
It could be argued that Old Browns Daughter was originally a pop song, it certainly was a popular song of its day being a Music Hall song, so it could be argued that O B Daughter is an example of a popsong becoming a tradtional song, because it was in the repertoire of a traditional singer, that would be logical if [as it appears to be the case] tradtional singers are classified as traditional singers because of the way they ;learned their song and their material.
would a traditional singer still be classified as such if he learned all his songs orally but they were all music hall or popular or popsongs.
Is it 100 per cent correct to still call Walter a traditional singer when he included in his repertoire GRAND MOTHERS OLD ARM CHAIR, OLD BROWNS DAUGHTER, OLD JOE THE BOAT IS GOING OVER, NAUGHTY JEMIMA BROWN THE MISTLETOE BOUGH, all of the above are composed songs of the victorian era most of which were popular in the music halls, and would have been classified as popular songs of the day or music hall songs.
Touche,Jim.