Guest,

" We have never rattled sabres, we have just put current knowledge before you. "

That was Dave's bit.

"We have never suggested that any life is worth more or less than another We have just compared armies using indicators like casualties, mutinies and successes. On such indicators, ours emerges as the best led army in the field"

That was Rag's bit.
I assumed they would both remember what they said.
Silly me. Sorry.