Comic affect?

Yes. Klopp was a German historian who died in 1903, and there are no historians called Shankly at all.

Keith and Teribus are providing the comedy around here.
We refer to actual historical knowledge instead of political myths. Where is the comedy in that?

Who are 'the comrades' then, Keith?
Jim and Dave, who both reject the findings of all the historians, choosing to believe myths based on their hard left politics instead.
That is why we can never agree.
Unless and until you can produce someone with actual knowledge who still believes your old hard left myths there is no point in continuing.