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Thread #158525   Message #3756488
Posted By: Keith A of Hertford
07-Dec-15 - 02:39 PM
Thread Name: BS: Jingoism or Commemoration
Subject: RE: BS: Jingoism or Commemoration
Dave, I am just going to discuss the issues.
If you have nothing more to add, why do you come here. A few days ago you just wanted it to stop!

Jim, I just defend the soldiers.
They did not invade and occupy foreign lands.
Theirs was a just war. That is also the considered opinion of the historians.

All the nations had empires, but Britain's fight was not imperial.
We would have kept out had Belgium not been invaded. No imperial motive.

You have denied or ignored the ruthless moral blackmail the trickery used to get men to enlist

So have Pennell, Macmillan, Paxman/OU just quoted on this thread.
You will find no historian who thinks there was any sigfnificant amount of what you imagine.

You have ignored or denied the cockups which caused thousands upon thousands of deaths.

Of course I have never denied mistakes were made.
A few commanders were incompetent. Most were not but they all had to learn an entirely new kind of warfare.

your insane jingoism
I am no jingo. You will find no jingoism in any post of mine.

I only ever defended three opinions.
Britain had little choice but to fight, the people accepted that, and the army was generally well and competently led.

I have supported each with unambiguous quotes from numerous historians.
YOU HAVE FOUND NONE THAT DISAGREE!

Unless and until you can, we have nothing to discuss.
Can you?