"We have had this discussion before and you cannot present such speculation as fact."

What speculation Gnome? You really should do some reading. All I have stated above "Had Great Britain stayed out of WWI" was stated by the Germans BEFORE the start of the war:

1: To Belgium - If you resist our armies we will annex your country

2: To Belgium - If you resist our armies we will annex your overseas possessions

3: To France - We will strip you of your colonies and overseas possessions by way of reparation.

What speculation? Do you deny the fact that with an annexed Belgium as part of the new greater Germany that the German Fleet could not be based in Belgian ports within four hours steaming of London? Do you deny that a German Army of 5 million would remain in existence while the Army of Great Britain would have remained at its 1914 strength of only 440,000 men? Do you rule out any attempt to increase the size of that Army would have been instantly viewed by the German masters of Europe as a provocation?

What speculation? Are you trying to tell us that the Kaiser didn't arm the Boers in South Africa during the Boer War? Are you trying to tell us that the Kaiser wasn't extremely jealous of Great Britain's Empire and wished to see it destroyed?

GUEST,Dave - 09 Dec 15 - 03:03 AM - Yes by all means you could speculate, but what would be the grounds for your speculations - I can at least give fairly solid grounds, arguments and track indicators to back up what I have said - I have seen no evidence at all that would indicate that in the early part of the 20th Century that Great Britain and Germany were anything other than bitter rivals, making any "partnership" along the lines you described as being highly improbable and therefore unlikely.