Chaps you seem to think that I am trying to convince you all of something - I am not, I know that that would be an impossible task as even in your own self-confessed ignorance of the subject you all feel as though you know much more about it than people who have made it their life's work and received academic acclaim for that work.

The WWI threads and those hardy annuals where people have a pop at the Festival of Remembrance always bring out the same old myths, lies and misrepresentations and as long as you keep trotting those out the likes of Keith A and myself will introduce you to the facts rather than your fantasies - and to date none of you have ever challenged or countered any of the facts stated, your normal resort has been to personal abuse.

Throughout these threads Keith A has challenged you to come up with the name of just one historian who disagrees with the three points originally raised - and to date after two years you have not been able to supply one whose specialty IS the First World War.

Keep dancing on the head of that pin Gnome it really does provide endless amusement.

By the way whatever happened to GUEST and his/her example of how historical theories are cyclical? GUEST never did get back to us on that did he/she - wonder why not? Could it be that he/she was talking a complete and utter load of bollocks?