I did not comment on jingoism or commemoration simply because I had not seen the programme that prompted that debate. Thread creep took the conversation in two other directions....... 1) tithe reliability of historians. A grossly misinformed person made the erroneous and sweeping statement that historians did not do their homework..the second path the debate took was on specific facts regarding the first war wherein both Keith and Teribus presented facts.
My first posting on this thread came well after the jingo and commem. Theme had been left. My responses have been largely to do with the defence of historians against the suggestion that they are all hacks.
I did observe on several occasions that teribus knew his history and went rings around some very very stupid arguments. One would not have to be genius to see which side of the debate presented facts and which side not. simple really.