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Thread #158525   Message #3758502
Posted By: Jim Carroll
15-Dec-15 - 06:26 AM
Thread Name: BS: Jingoism or Commemoration
Subject: RE: BS: Jingoism or Commemoration
"Are you seriously claiming that all the historians have gone wrong and the Mudcat Comrades alone hold the truth of history?!"
One more time Keith - just for a laugh
You have never shown that you have ever read an historian - not once - a latest peep as a few world war books that you claim to have supported your case contradict utterly what you have claimed - Margaret McMillan and Max Hastings in particular make actual statements in their books which diametrically oppose tour claims (I read bits of 'The War that Ended Peace' and 'Catastrophe' with growing incredulity last week)
As for Clark's 'The Sleepwalkers' - that should be a compulsory part of any history curriculum!
If "history never dies" - why have you demanded only current living historians and disqualified dead ones throughout your arguments? - you are a self-contradicting joke!
Your arguments are a dishonest, ludicrous mess - the pair of you have refused to respond to the real points of the war (your bullying bodyguard sneered at the suggestion that the War should have a moral, humane aspect)
Your only interest in the subject is that of a jingoist setting out to show the War as a high point in British history when in fact it was the lowest - something to be deeply ashamed of and not glorified as it has been by you pair of extremist flag-waggers.
Between you - a braindead poser and a bullying, nationalist, wannabe soldier, you have proved nothing and convinced nobody of anything other than your own vacuous right-wing nationalism.
You have even gone to the extent of contradicting your own star tabloid journalist (remembering that you insisted on "real, living, qualified historians" from the rest of us.)
"Comrades" - don't you wish you had a few of your own? - The pair of you are totally alone on this one - which says all that needs to be said for your arguments - your contempt for those who disagree with you takes in all those on this forum who have an interest in British twentieth century history - "Muppets" all.
Jim Carroll