GUEST Dave here is how "erudite" nameless one's post was:

GUEST- 15 Dec 15 - 03:12 AM


1: We are discussing the degree of jingoism versus the degree of commemoration.

Nameless GUESTS and the usual suspects weren't go back to the beginning of the thread and count how many posts there were before we got "The Butcher of the Somme" crack?

2: For Teribus to wade in and try to stifle the debate by his immature "it's all commemoration with no jingoism" is not only irrelevant to debating the degrees but also professing profound ignorance."

I must apologise for having and opinion? Or am I just simply not entitled to voice it? And nameless GUEST has the brassneck to witter on about stiffling debate.

NOTE: GUEST Dave we are still waiting after over 1,000 posts to get one single example of this alleged "Jingoism" - the one you offered up had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with either the RBL Festival of Remembrance or the Service of Remembrance did it?

3: If the absurd position taken by Teribus, Keith, Michael Gove and HiLo had merit, nobody would have bothered debating it in the first place.

Nobody as far as I can see has bothered to debate the subject of the thread - which was introduced and steered towards a Keith baiting exercise almost from the outset. By the way what absurd position? I have stated that as far as my witnessing of the event it was all about commemoration, until any of you can furnish one single example of "Jingoism" my opinion will remain unchanged.

4: That the November services merely remind intelligent people of the ugly side of military incompetence is sad, because when they began many years ago, they were a warning to us all of the horrors of war, the bad decisions that lead to unnecessary death and to mourn rather than thank those slaughtered.

Hate to point this out to you nameless one but the "ugly side" of incompetence that normally results in war is generally political. It was the horror of the First World War that lead to the vain glorious hope that the policy of appeasement would work - a policy I would hasten to add that was advocated by most of the writers of the "Revisionist" crap that you lot all believe. In 1933/34 had there been a GWB in power in either France or Great Britain then the Second World War would never have happened - doubt that? Then read the orders given to General Heinz Guderian for the re-occupation of the Rhineland:

If so much as one single French Gendarme puts up his arm and orders you back - you are to retreat - Source - Guderian's own autobiography - Panzer Leader which by the way Raggy was also on our compulsory reading list.

So come along chaps get your heads together and give us an example of "Jingoism" that was evident at the RBL Festival of Remembrance in the Royal Albert Hall, or at the Service of Remembrance at the Cenotaph.