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Thread #158817   Message #3760021
Posted By: Jim Carroll
21-Dec-15 - 04:17 AM
Thread Name: History and mythology of WW1
Subject: RE: History and mythology of WW1
"The First World War (HINT: Take a look at the title) was a fairly classless affair "
Nice to sneer hasn't gone away from your contributions shipmate.
From the British Library site.
   
"To us, with modern social attitudes and communications technology, Turner's world might seem rigidly hierarchical. But to men like him it would have seemed much less strange. Born in a more deferential age, the soldiers of the First World War were accustomed to everyone having their place and knowing it, too. The British army of 1914-18 was structured very well, not only to accomplish its military mission, but also for a society of such men."
CLASS DIVIDED WW1
World War One was rigidly class divided
"There had been a disproportionately high percentage of casualties among the landed classes,"
Another crass argument - the overwhelming majority of those involved came from the "lower" (a term very popular in those days) classes, so comparing percentages of larger numbers of working men with vastly smaller numbers of smaller men is totally misleading - those who went over the top were the drones - those who sent them over or stayed back at headquarters in relative safety were the queen bees.
Not were any social changes brought about following the war due to the sacrifice made by the workers who fought and gave their lives.
British workers became more militant having become concious oof the contempt they were held in - soldiers protested to the point of rioting during and after the war, Trades Unions began to fight for better conditions, against tiff and sometimes brutal opposition from their "betters" (still very much part of the British vocabulary) - workers during The General Strike faced both the police and the army in their attempts to get a better way of life... and then of course, thanks to the total breakdown of the system, we had the great depression, where families starved and workers took to the streets to feed them.
The same happened, of course, happened at the end of World War Two, a progressive (those were the days) Labour Government introduced improvements in workers lives - social housing, the strongly opposed (by the right) National Health Service and nationalisation of industry
All these were strongly opposed by the right, run down when they took power and eventually either neutred by privatisation or done away altogether.
We've already had the 'patriotic' right extremist 'voice of reason' telling us that British industry was crap (ie "unprofitable") and that British people never manufactured anything worth buying and I have no doubt we'll get more - ah well, that's patriotism for you.
What are you pair of eejits on?
As you were cookie and Corporal Pike.
Jim Carroll