Believe me Jom I am all ears tell us all who it was in Great Britain that promised anybody a "short war" - or is this a re-run of your "made up" claim reinforcing the myth about "being home by Christmas"?

Kitchener was made Secretary of State for War on the 5th August 1914 when he warned in all seriousness that the war would last three to four years, would be industrial in scale, would involve the whole of the population and would necessitate Great Britain raising the first citizens army the country had ever had - Oh and GUEST Dave in 1914 Great Britain did include Ireland.

Sir Edward Grey's best remembered remark at the outbreak of the First World War: "The lamps are going out all over Europe. We shall not see them lit again in our life-time."

So the Secretary of State for War and the Foreign Secretary most certainly DID NOT believe for one nano-second that it would be a quick war.