Hi, Allan-

I think that U.S. history textbooks have always taught that the French played a key role in the U.S. revolution. I think that to say they "won" the revolution, would be going too far, but their role was essential.

If I recall correctly, the Irish depended on the French in their revolution of 1798. The French didn't make good on their promises, and the Irish lost. In this case, I think it's fair to say the French "lost" the 1798 Irish rebellion.

What's the difference between France losing the one and not winning the other?

I dunno. I think I'm going to have to ponder that awhile.

-Joe-