The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #158999   Message #3769377
Posted By: Jim Carroll
30-Jan-16 - 11:42 AM
Thread Name: BS: Terrorism, Again (Israel)
Subject: RE: BS: Terrorism, Again (Israel)
"I have been called antisemetic, a fucking disgrace, "
Then respond to what the Holocaust survivors say - respond to the evidence put up over and over again
If you do not, you are defending the Israeli regime and not The Jewish people.
The Israelis now have a knee-jerk reaction of dismissing every criticism as being "Antisemitic - which is an antisemitic claim by definition.
I'm not sure if you are one of those who has made the accusation against me or those who agree with me - but that is Antisemitic - it is Antisemitic by definition to associate The Jewish people as a whole with the actions of the Israeli state - if that is what yopu have done, that is what you are.
To take only the word of Isreali right wing politicians and deliberately ignore what Jews who criticise what those politicians do is anti-Semitic - especially when a large number of them are either Holocaust survivors or their relatives.
By doing so, you are refusing to accept the lessons of The Holocaust.
The first time I heard the term "never again, in relation to what was happening to The Palestinians not to anybody, was from the mother of someone I was once to marry" - she and a few of her family survived the camps and had learned the lesson.
You want to sling your accusations about - get used to having them slug back at you - I have.
I'll put this up again because it represents everything I have believed about what's happening in Israel today.
You want to dispute it, feel free; you want to ignore it - shame on you and everybody like you.
It has been a cowardly trait of people like Bearded Bruce to skulkk behind the six million who died in the camps - at least have the common deceny to read and respond to what they say.
That goes for every last three/four, however many of you there are.
Full text of letter:
"Jewish survivors and descendants of survivors and victims of Nazi genocide unequivocally condemn the massacre of Palestinians in Gaza
"As Jewish survivors and descendants of survivors and victims of the Nazi genocide we unequivocally condemn the massacre of Palestinians in Gaza and the ongoing occupation and colonization of historic Palestine. We further condemn the United States for providing Israel with the funding to carry out the attack, and Western states more generally for using their diplomatic muscle to protect Israel from condemnation. Genocide begins with the silence of the world.
"We are alarmed by the extreme, racist dehumanization of Palestinians in Israeli society, which has reached a fever-pitch. In Israel, politicians and pundits in The Times of Israel and The Jerusalem Post have called openly for genocide of Palestinians and right-wing Israelis are adopting Neo-Nazi insignia.
"Furthermore, we are disgusted and outraged by Elie Wiesel's abuse of our history in these pages to justify the unjustifiable: Israel's wholesale effort to destroy Gaza and the murder of more than 2,000 Palestinians, including many hundreds of children. Nothing can justify bombing UN shelters, homes, hospitals and universities. Nothing can justify depriving people of electricity and water.
"We must raise our collective voices and use our collective power to bring about an end to all forms of racism, including the ongoing genocide of Palestinian people. We call for an immediate end to the siege against and blockade of Gaza. We call for the full economic, cultural and academic boycott of Israel. "Never again" must mean NEVER AGAIN FOR ANYONE!
Jim Carroll