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Thread #159228   Message #3773115
Posted By: Bill D
16-Feb-16 - 11:29 AM
Thread Name: BS: Gravity solved?
Subject: RE: BS: Gravity solved?
"However the atheist position , wants to rule out theist...esp biblical...position a priori , "

That is simply false, Pete. All opinions by thinking atheists are arrived at.. thinking. As 17 people have told you here, most 'atheists' don't bother to deny religious claims- they merely doubt them because they see little or no convincing evidence. And besides, you are implicitly equating 'atheist' with 'scientist', even though there are many scientists who are not atheists and many atheists who are not scientists..... and many more-- like me-- who are neither. I am a skeptic! I look for bad reasoning from all sides!

And here we have a prime example of bad reasoning... or faulty comprehension.... or just plain stubborness...

"and as you know, in my opinion the atheists is just as much a religious position as the theist ."

Whenever we ...once again.... explain the flaws in several of your claims, you resort again to that one. "Your opinion" is just a classic way of hurling an insult... "Ha... you just believe your position in the same way I believe mine! Mine is just as good as yours!"

That is false... it is out of line with basic definitions and with all understanding of what is meant by the language. You are essentially just clenching your fists, closing your eyes, stomping your foot and insisting, " Yes it is, Yes it is, Yes it is, Yes it is!!"... as if enough repetition of a fallacious idea will make it so.

Even though you actually say it politely and quietly, you are holding to a false definition because it 'seems' to weaken the other side. Perhaps there ARE a few 'atheists' who just blindly and emotionally reject religious thought because they have had bad experiences... *shrug*... but that does NOT serve to define the category itself as "just as religious as true believers"..... and attempting to slip in adherence to the scientific method as 'some sort of belief system similar to unthinking atheism' is a rhetorical device that just won't fly!

As I have said before... believe what you wish and pray & read the Bible and be a good guy...... just don't throw out faulty science and careless definitions to try to discredit those who do NOT take the Bible literally.