Right.

One one side we have Joe Offer, who has studied such things, pete, who thinks I don't like him but I admire his lack of hypocrisy if not his grasp of reality, and all the normal rational people who have contributed.

On the other, we have Keith and Goofus.

Are we going for beyond reasonable doubt or balance of probability here?

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Thou shalt not kill.

It doesn't apply to me by the way. I prefer let he who is stoned cast the first sin.