Well, evolution is still to the fore in the thread. We can still argue about beauty if you like! To paraphrase Richard Dawkins, billions of years of evolution have resulted in such complexity, diversity and beauty that, in a certain kind of vulnerable mind, there is the illusion of design. Whilst there are strong religious vibes on this board, it's inevitable that the conflict between science and faith will be argued about. I don't know whether I'm one of your susoects, but I've posted in this thread about evolution, the need for evidence and beauty, several times, and I've done without insulting anyone. How's that?