"May we continue the non-music discussion here please?"
No we can't Keith - not as far as I'm concerned.
Once again you have scurried behind historians you haven't read and totally ignored the facts as seen and now being widely stated on our media by those who were involved in the form of documentary evidence they have left behind - not historians, but actual participants.
You many stick your Little Britain mind games - I have the facts of the civil war and the war of Independence - you have out-of-context quotes again - you cannot turn on the television here or open a newspaper without being bombarded by it.
Answer the points made - I have no intention of being part of closing yet another thread as you and your historian have just done
Jim Carroll