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Thread #45911   Message #3787771
Posted By: Jim Carroll
29-Apr-16 - 04:25 AM
Thread Name: BS: Easter Rising - April 24-29, 1916
Subject: RE: BS: Easter Rising - April 24-29, 1916
My, muy my, this pair of clowns still in denial and still abusing the Irish people and their history - and still telling porkies.
You have answered none of the questions Keith and your have you are still claiming that Independence was "inevitable" despite the fact that Britain altered the Treaty (which was rejected in it's distorted form bt the Irish Parliamentarians in its distorted form) and still clings on to six counties despite the near century of inequality and bloodshed.
In claiming that you have answered the points I made you are lying, pure and simple - where have you ever dealt with the discrepency between permanent and the original proposal of full unity a year after WW1 ended - you haven't.
Question in full.
"The British parliament passed the act before the rising,"
And altered it in July 1916 to make the partition of the six counties permanent - it was originally intended that these counties (originally the whole of Ulster, but altered when it was realised that this would give the Catholics a majority in the North) would be partitioned until a year after the war ended.
Even the Parliamentary Irish rejected the re-written treaty - Redmond described it as "a betrayal"
The Republicans who took part in the Rising did so because they realised that Britain had no intention of ratifying any treaty that did not meet its own interests.
You have been given all this before, what part of this do you have problems with; if none, why are you raising it again and again and again.....?
Britain was finally forced to concede a form of Independence, at the threat of an alternative of "a signature or war", which lead to immediate Civil War in the 26 Counties, built in financial, political and land-owning injustice, inequality and hardship for the Catholic third of the six counties, and a near-century of unrest and bloodshed.
What problems do you have with any of this?"
Your claim to have answered it is simply not true - ignoring of facts and repetition is not an answer.
The destruction
I've come back to half-a-dozen invitations from history groups to attend talks by Irish researchers on The Rising - more to come.
Your description of the ignorance of the Irish people to their history is racist, pure and simple.
Your refusal to respond to the enormity of your attitude to them is a shining example of your dishonesty.
Was amused to be told that Terrytoon knows more about the destruction of Dublin than those on the ground attending to the damage at the time - nice to know we have such geniuses in our midst.
Sheesh - what a pair!!
I've just returned from a visit to Liverpool, during which the establishment and the forces of law and order were dealt a sharp lesson in what happens when the establishment tries to alter facts and re-write history - when will you people ever learn?
Jim Carroll