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Thread #45911   Message #3787945
Posted By: Teribus
30-Apr-16 - 10:46 AM
Thread Name: BS: Easter Rising - April 24-29, 1916
Subject: RE: BS: Easter Rising - April 24-29, 1916
"That is not how the people felt in 1916. They were happy with the plans for home rule, supported the war against Germany, and reviled the rebels" - Keith A

Then from Raggy we got these points:


1. Show us your evidence for such a claims.

Prior to the Easter Rising not even the Executive Committees of either the Irish Republican Brotherhood or the Irish Volunteers favoured an armed uprising - evidence of that has been provided and sources provided.

In the immediate aftermath of the rising the "rebels" had to be protected from the anger of the population of Dublin by British troops.

2. Are these the same people who considered the leaders martyrs.

After the executions many were, but not at the time of the rising itself. With the advantage of hindsight the British should not have executed the ring-leaders they should have shamed them publicly for the treacherous, lying bastards that they were, I believe it might have been possible for the British to have done that without giving away the fact to the Germans that British Naval Intelligence had broken their codes. Casement landing from a German Submarine, the Aud scuttling herself with German weapons onboard while over 200,000 Irishmen were fighting Germans in France - wouldn't have gone down well. The orders to rise in Dublin that were immediately countermanded for Volunteer Units elsewhere in the country would have demonstrated the degree of betrayal by their own commanders of those fighting in Dublin to all. Also with 20x20 hindsight, if the executions were bound to happen then it would have been better if de Valera had been executed as well - there would have been no Civil War and Ireland would have been a great deal better off.

3. Are these the same people who by 1919 were fighting a War of Independence.

Hardly relevant as this was three years after the rising and other factors also came into play.

"Once again you clearly demonstrate your utter lack of knowledge of Ireland at any point in history. Try reading a few books."

With your self proclaimed lack of knowledge I think that it would be of great benefit to you if you took your own advice. What Keith A has come up with I have found corroboration, what you have come up with has been for the most part unsubstantiated nonsense.