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Thread #45911   Message #3788123
Posted By: Jim Carroll
01-May-16 - 11:18 AM
Thread Name: BS: Easter Rising - April 24-29, 1916
Subject: RE: BS: Easter Rising - April 24-29, 1916
" I have quoted a couple."
You have quoted a novelist and an American Jesuit - overwhelming
Neither described the Irish as ignorant of their own history - perhaps you might give an example of what you mean by "many" and who they are, and more to the point, how you know?
No - didn't think so.
"No I did not. That is what I said about one of YOUR wild claims."
"Fergie, I think that your interpretation is wrong, and based on propaganda not fact."
Someone posting in your name again - you were referring to a statement by Fergie.
Please stop making things up.
"No I did not. I did say they committed some and that is a fact."
I accused you of saying that those commemorating the Uprising were celebrating murder, which is exactly what you have claimed - I have never suggested a few incidents didn't happen, nor will I, but they measure small to the killing that took place though artillery fire and the at least five executions of non-combatants by Capt. Bowen Colthurst - not to mention the mindless butchering of the leaders
(The first man to die in the Easter rebellion was an unarmed Constable James O'Brien, from Kilfergus, Co Limerick.)
The greeated
s number of cold -blooded murdere were carried out by the British - five were by the serial killer Colthurst - not worth a mention by you.
"That referred to Kineally's observation that the Irish school system forced a biased version of history to be taught"
No - it was your deliberate misinterpretation of what she said.
What she actually said that the "revisionists" who avoided placing direct blame for the Famine on anybody taught that to children , and that ended in the 1930s.
Your reference was to today's Irish hating the British because they had been brainwashed to do so - nothing could be further from the truth and it is racist to suggest otherwise - the Irish do not hate the British, nor anybody particularly.
You did as you always do - grab a quote out of context and distort it to make a point.
Kineally in fact blew up in your face - it is she who blames the British for the outcome of the Famine and that has come from her researches in the late 1990s
Are we to assume that you and your mate are going to continue to ignore the points put up?
Jim Carroll