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Thread #45911   Message #3788535
Posted By: Jim Carroll
04-May-16 - 09:29 AM
Thread Name: BS: Easter Rising - April 24-29, 1916
Subject: RE: BS: Easter Rising - April 24-29, 1916
"But with all that it hasn't affected you in the least Jom."
Haven't you got round to the fact that small minded insulting gets threads closed - or perhaps, given the shape of your position, that's what you're trying for.
If you actually have an argument, why not put it (with references, of course)?
You have the facts - you respond with denials.
Lat's see if we can't make it simple for you.
You claim that Britain had no alternative but to execute the rebel leaders because there was a war on.
Here are the facts as I have always understood them.
That has never been put up as a reason for them happening, they took place at the behest of General Maxwell alone, they were held in secret, and those charged were not allowed to offer a defence of any shape or form - they were revenge-taking kangaroo courts - a disgrace to the army and a disgrace to the Empire, some aspects of the 'trials' were actually illegal by both military and civil standards.
Controversially, Maxwell decided that the courts-martial would be held in secret and without a defence, which Crown law officers later ruled to have been illegal.[132] Some of those who conducted the trials had commanded British troops involved in suppressing the Rising, a conflict of interest that the Military Manual prohibited."
(Wiki entry on The Rising).
Now - why not show us, with evidence, that this is wrong - or are you going to stick with "just the same old myths"
"You have quoted the Daily mail as a reputable source before now Jom "
I have never at any time suggested the Daily Mail to be a "reliable source" (pretty much a waste of time asking you to show where I have - you appear not to lower yourself to actually substantiating what you say)
As far as I am concerned, The Daily Mail is a right-wing bum-wipe that has never managed to break with its history of support for Hitler and Fascism).
What I have said is that if The Daily Mail makes a positive statement in favour of anything vaguely to the left of Mein Kampf, it is possibly true - for instance, if they criticise the right-wing establishment, then they must have done something really, really bad.
I'm quite happy to condemn the right wing with the words of their own supporters - it is no indication that I trust the bastards or regard them as in any way reliable.
Oddly enough, I now regard The Times in the same way - from a reliably, informative newspaper to a tablid rad in the hands of Murdoch - I still take it for 'Codeword'
Jim Carroll