The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #45911   Message #3788734
Posted By: Jim Carroll
05-May-16 - 05:47 AM
Thread Name: BS: Easter Rising - April 24-29, 1916
Subject: RE: BS: Easter Rising - April 24-29, 1916
"Quite right Jom they were charged WITH having been one of a party at [whatever location] from which shots were fired, occasioning casualties amongst His Majesty's troops"
Not treason then, as you have been insisting, just national liberation rebellion, which is what I said in the first place?
Now we're getting somewhere.
Now - do you want to have a go at the illegal manner in which the trial was conducted - won't hold my breath?
"Have you been able to quote any historian in support of yours or Jim's case"
We are daily being treated to articles written by historians and researchers which support exactly the case I have been putting and have access to at least half-a-dozen programmes a week on television researched and attributed to established historians on television supporting it.
You, on the other hand hand not produced one single qualified historian who backs your case - not one single one.
You have offered a journalist who whose opinion coincides with your own on some aspects, but his qualifications make his opinions just that, opinions.
Fr Séamus Murphy SJ is a lecturer in philosophy - his CV contains no reference to his having any historical qualifications whatever so again, just opinions.
The historian you thought backed your case didn't, on the contrary, he supports the cause of the Rebellion and believes its ideals are unfulfilled.
When you demand historians - where are yours?
Your knowledge of Irish history is non-existent as is the likelihood of your gaining some as you have proudly pointed out - you are not interested in the subject and do not intend to change that situation.
Have we spotted flaws in your knowledge....? you have to be joking.
Your whole case is built on your contempt for the Irish as "gullible" and their history as "a contemptible joke".
" Tim Pat Coogan? A journalist who has written populist books purporting to be history".
More contempt for the Irish.
Tim Pat Coogan is a highly respected historian without qualifications who has pent his life writing highly respected books on Irish history - his work of Collins, De Valera, The Troubles, The IRA, The Famine, The Irish Diaspora..... are major reference works respected throughout Ireland.
The Fact that you have come up with one historian who disagrees with him changes all that one iota
Ferriter takes the diametric opposite to you on the Rising so why not show us these historians you keep bleating on about - who are they and what do they say?
Jim Carroll