Joe Offer - 06 May 16 - 01:17 PM

Well, the discussion, though heated, continues to be interesting. I don't think anybody is lying here. Lies are false statements intentionally meant to mislead. I think people here are saying what they believe to be correct - even though it may be incorrect. Rather than respond with accusations of "lying," a factual, documented response would be helpful.

Two posts on Thomas Kent Joe, one very sanitised post from Jim Carroll, and another providing far more detail from me. Are you familiar Joe with the expression lying by omission?

Jim's post seeks to give the impression that Kent was selected at random and killed for taking part in the rising even although he was not even in Dublin at the time. In doing this does he seek to mislead? I certainly think so.

My contribution details that Kent was executed for the shooting of a policeman in the execution of his duty.

To answer your earlier question and subsequent comment:

What tyranny? Had the men executed in 1916 done anything like that in the USA, while the USA was at war their feet would not have touched the ground on the way to death row and the execution chamber - the US has executed a man (Brown) for organising armed resistance to slavery and one man (Mumford) for simply tearing down the union flag during the civil war.

I personally, would have kept them all alive, especially those who signed the proclamation. I would have paraded them through every town, village, parish and school hall in Ireland exposing their lies and their treachery to their own followers and to the Irish people (who they most certainly did not represent - they even had to keep their intentions secret from their own organisations FFS!!).

To expose and provide proof to the world of the extent of their treacherous collusion with Germany between 1914 and 1916 would have let the Germans know that their naval codes had been broken. Tell me Joe how closely was ENIGMA guarded during the Second World War? How closely guarded a secret was the Manhattan Project? The USA and Great Britain would have done anything to keep those secrets from their enemies. Great Britain was in the same situation in 1916.