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Thread #45911   Message #3790989
Posted By: Jim Carroll
18-May-16 - 07:53 PM
Thread Name: BS: Easter Rising - April 24-29, 1916
Subject: RE: BS: Easter Rising - April 24-29, 1916
Compulsory conscription sorted.
Jim Carroll

From Ireland's Civil War, pp 68 and 69, Carleton Younger (1968)   
The alternative was adopted but Lloyd George was adamant that a Home Rule Bill must be introduced also, otherwise "it would be stated, and rightly so, that the pledges given on this subject had not been redeemed". Government supporters, the whole of the Labour Party, the American people and he. himself, would not accept one measure without the other.
Brushing aside Bonar Law's objection that if there were not substantial agreement in the Convention, the pledge that Ulster would not be coerced might be difficult to sustain, the Prime Minister stated his intention to carry through a bill based on the Convention's recommendations if possible, and, if not, then based on the original letter to Sir Horace Plunkett.
Only in the event of Irish Members of all sections opposing the Home Rule Bill in the House of Commons would Lloyd George concede conscription without Home Rule. Barnes went further and declined to be party to the application of conscription in Ireland unless Home Rule went through. 8
On April 6th, the Prime Minister sombrely reported to the Cabinet that great numbers of men had been lost in France and that hundreds of thousands more would be needed. He had now received the Report of the Convention, but his determination of the day before not to introduce one measure without the other had wilted. The calamitous situation in France had impelled him to come to a decision that legislation should be passed providing for conscription in Ireland. There would be trouble, perhaps bloodshed, he acknowledged, but this he now believed had to be accepted.
He then stated the considerations which had weighed with him.
"Even if Home Rule were carried tomorrow, the army and navy would be under the control of the Imperial Parliament.
The claim has never been put forward by any Irish party that the army and navy and the defence of the Realm are local matters. In the second place, I do not believe it possible in this country to tear industry about, to break up single businesses, to take fathers of forty-five and upwards from their homes to fight the battles of a Catholic nationality on the Continent without deep resentment at the spectacle of sturdy young Catholics in Ireland spending their time in increasing the difficulties of this country by drilling and by compelling us to keep troops in Ireland. I do not know any grounds of justice or equity on which conscription could not be applied to Ireland. "
The Government had shown indulgence to Ireland, "wise and reasonable indulgence", he thought, in the hope that she would become "reconciled to her Imperial association". But they could not "go to the House of Commons and ask our people to make sacrifices, sacrifices which the Irish in America are making, and leave the Irish at home out. I think we ought to accord to Ireland the same rights as Irishmen are enjoying in America. "