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Thread #45911   Message #3791277
Posted By: Teribus
20-May-16 - 06:55 AM
Thread Name: BS: Easter Rising - April 24-29, 1916
Subject: RE: BS: Easter Rising - April 24-29, 1916
you used the Normans toi justify partition

Nope.

The whole Norman thing and any reference to it comes from me answering a specific question that had nothing whatsoever to do with the Easter Rising. The question came from a couple of people, Joe Offer being one of them. He asked what the British were doing in Ireland I merely pointed out to them:

1: That the Normans had been invited over to Ireland by a minor Irish King who had been deposed by the High King and he sought assistance from Henry II of England in reclaiming his land.

2: That Ireland was not a unified country at that time being a collection of small kingdoms based on tribal groups - i.e. BEFORE the Normans landed there was no notion of any national identity.

Purpose of the post was to dispel any quaint notion that any country such as Ireland existed BEFORE the Normans got there.

The exchange had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with anything else.

John Redmond in 1914:
"Irish nationalists can never be the assenting parties to the mutilation of the Irish nation. The two nation theory is to us an abomination and a blasphemy."


I think in reading that it is perfectly obvious to all and sundry that John Redmond is speaking for "Irish nationalists" - he was most definitely NOT speaking for the entire nation.



Your response
"Cannot really see why it should be such an abomination, they were never a united nation prior to the arrival of the Normans, they were a collection of small kingdoms."