Teribus says: The point I am trying make should be fairly obvious.

Well, gee, I tried to guess what your point was, and you said I was wrong. Humor me, and give us a summary of exactly what it is that you think about Irish independence.

You say that there was no Irish nation before the English took over, but then you acknowledge that there indeed was a High King. Seems to me that means there was at least some semblance of a federation of Irish kingdoms.

In addition, I think it's clear that there was a unified Irish identity, even though there were several kingdoms. They thought of themselves as the Irish people, whether or not they had a unified government.

-Joe-

P.S. Thank you for attributing the quote, Dick Miles. Between guessing where you get your quotes from, and guessing what Teribus thinks about things, I was thoroughly confused.