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Thread #45911   Message #3791540
Posted By: Jim Carroll
22-May-16 - 11:42 AM
Thread Name: BS: Easter Rising - April 24-29, 1916
Subject: RE: BS: Easter Rising - April 24-29, 1916
"By the way Jim you do not need guns to drill, you do not need guns to train."
If you are going to oppose the army of the greatest power in the world you do.
You should know that with all your (claimed) military experience
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Tell me again about what you told Joe about taking his information from novels?
I ask again - was The Military service act not operable in 1918 when Britain attempted to enforce conscription on Ireland
A reminder
"Mr Bonar Law: How would you justify to the House of Commons delaying conscription? You can say, as the Prime Minister has just said, that time is required for machinery,"
or "Mr Herbert Fisher: Are you definitely satisfied that there is a military advantage in applying conscription to Ireland? I feel absolutely with you as to the bad effect on English public opinion of continuing to exempt Ireland; but we should look at it as a cold military proposition. English public opinion is sound. Our artisans will do their duty. You have to decide whether it is worth your while to enforce conscription in Ireland and thereby perhaps obtain disaffected elements for your army.
Lord Derby: They will be distributed through the army.
The Prime Minister: That is the one consideration that chiefly worried me. Is it worth while in a military sense? You will get 50, 000 at any rate, at a minimum, who will fight. These five divisions will be made up of excellent material, of young men up to twenty-five, at a time when we are taking old men.
Mr Churchill: I have not met one soldier in France who does not think we shall get good fighting material"
or
"Mr Churchill: The two measures should be regarded as independent, and be simultaneously introduced. I do not see the
advantage of delaying the application of the Military Service Act to Ireland. The dual policy should be loyally followed. I would press forward on the two roads. There is a great deal to be said against any delay in action once conscription is announced."

Try (19 May 16 - 12:49 PM)
Tell me why, if conscription was out of the question for Ireland, Britain attempted tyo push it through in 1918?
This is bloody insane.
You've has all this - it's done and dusted - Ireland lived under the threat of enforced conscription throughout the war and if that had happened it would have made the country unviable.
Haven't you learned how stupid it is to quote rulebooks that were persistently ignored whenever the authorities found them inconvenient.
I really don't know what you expect by persisting with this farce - you're already up to your arse in wreckage.
Jim Carroll