The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #45911   Message #3792136
Posted By: Jim Carroll
25-May-16 - 03:04 PM
Thread Name: BS: Easter Rising - April 24-29, 1916
Subject: RE: BS: Easter Rising - April 24-29, 1916
"By the 9th July 1914 all parties were in agreement.
"
Agreement to wait till after the war to decide on the position on partition - For the sake of not having to repeat this again what problem do you have with that statement?
"Home Rule was not discussed again until after the Rising."
It was never "discussede" after the Rising - Lloyd George had gone ahead with making partition permanent - For the sake of not having to repeat this again what problem do you have with that statement
Redmond had made it cleared from the beginning that permanent partition was not on the table as far as his party was concerned - For the sake of not having to repeat this again what problem do you have with that statement?
"So no guarantee of permanent partition then"
Are you suggesting that Lloyd did not tell both sides that partition had been decided in their favour - For the sake of not having to repeat this again what problem do you have with that statement?   
"NOT the same thing at all."
Certainly not the same he had told the Unionists if that's what you mean, though I'm sure you don't - For the sake of not having to repeat this again what problem do you have with that statement?
""Parliamentary Republicans""
They are referred to as both - including in the documents you have been given - stop trying to be clever - that's the last thing you are.
Tell us Jim who but seven selfish men instigated the Easter Rising?
A rising of sorts was on the cards throughout the latter half of the nineteenth century
Tell me who but the sectarian thugs in the north armed themselves in order to end any chance of Ireland becoming independent?
Now - unless you are prepared to debate honestly - this is finished
You are the most reactionary arrogant and ignorant individual I have ever come across.
You won't provide evidence or respond to points yet you demand that I do.
You make up claims based on thin air and expect to be believed
You make statements that nobody has and are taking a stance that nobody else is.
You denigrate the Irish as a nation because of something you claim did or didn't happen back in Norman times, using it to show Ireland has no claim to unity then lie about it.
You accuse the Irish of being duped by foreign powers into demanding freedom from The Empire, then lie about it.
What are you on - I'd have a word with my dealer if I were you.
Now, unless there's anything else..... shut the door as you go out.
Thank you for confirming my "pecking order" joke - I wasn't serious, but I am now.
Jim Carroll