Pete says: However, though the Anglicans and Catholics ....at least the wishy washy ones that don't trust the bible anyway half the time...are losing numbers....

I think the Anglicans and Catholics trust the Bible just fine. They treasure it as a sacred document that is the basis of their faith. They just don't think it was written to be understood in a simplistic, literalistic manner. They see it as an ancient document that needs to be seen within the context in which it was written. To be understood, it needs to be studied in the same way all ancient documents should be studied - within historical, textual, linguistic, and literary context. But no, it is not a fraud and it is not untrue. It just needs to be understood.

And by the way, many modern Evangelical theologians are beginning to use modern critical tools for Scripture study - historical, textual, linguistic, literary, and redaction criticism. As a result, they came up with the New International Version (NIV), a translation that is intellectually sound and far more understandable than the 1607 King James Version.

-Joe Offer-