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Posted By: Jim Carroll
29-May-16 - 03:03 AM
Thread Name: BS: Easter Rising - April 24-29, 1916
Subject: RE: BS: Easter Rising - April 24-29, 1916
"Why, that's very brave and valiant of you."
What you appear not to understand Steve, is that, despite the actually stated ignorance of and disinterest in Irish history, this feller and his mate know more than the Irish nation, its experts, its historians, is writers down the ages.... the lot - all rolled into one dynamic duo.
We are dealing with supermen here - no evidence, no facts - all out of their own heads - 'The Almighty Johnsons' have nothing on this pair of geniuses - we need to treasure them, so please don't knock what you don't understand..
Moving on - how the achievements of Easter Week were recognised by the newly elected Irish Government following the War
Jim Carroll

"Why, that's very brave and valiant of you."
What you appear not to understand Steve, is that, despite the actually stated ignorance of and disinterest in Irish history, this feller knows more than the Irish nation, its experts, its historians, is writers down the ages - the lot - all rolled together.
We are dealing with supermen here - no evidence, no facts - all out of their own heads,
'The Mighty Johnsons' have nothing on this pair of geniuses - we need to treasure them, so please don't knock what you don't understand..

Moving on - how the achievements of Easter Week were recognised by the newly elected Irish Government following the War
Jim Carroll

From A History of Ireland in 250 Episodes, Jonathan Bardon (2008)

Episode 222
THE FIRST DÁIL
In a desperate attempt to find a way of implementing Home Rule while the Great War still raged, Prime Minister David Lloyd George called an Irish Convention. The conference, which met in Trinity College Dublin from the summer of 1917 to the spring of 1918, proved futile. The rising separatist party, Sinn Fein, refused to attend. In any case, northern and southern Unionists fell out. At a crucial meeting of the Ulster Unionist Council in 1916 it had been agreed to seek partition of the six north-eastern counties. Unionists in the Ulster counties of Donegal, Cavan and Monaghan accepted this majority decision with heavy hearts. According to one Unionist mp, 'Men not prone to emotion shed tears.'
Southern Unionists, not wanting to be cut off from the support of northern Protestants, campaigned vigorously to stop partition. They came close to clinch¬ing a deal with John Redmond, leader of the Irish Parliamentary Party. The Ulster Unionist mp Adam Duffin wrote in disgust to his wife on 28 November: 'The Southern Unionist lot... want to capitulate & make terms with the enemy lest a worse thing befall them. They are a cowardly crew & stupid to boot.'
Redmond died in March 1918, and when his successor, John Dillon, failed to hammer out an agreement, the Convention dissolved.
At that moment Field Marshal Ludendorff's stormtroopers dramatically broke through on the Western Front and surged towards Paris. By this time recruitment in Ireland had fallen to a trickle. A contemporary anti-recruiting song caught the prevailing sentiment:

Sergeant William Bailey's looking very blue,
Too-ra-loo-ra-loo-ra-loo-ra-loo ...
Some rebel youths with placards
Have called his army blackguards
And told the Irish boyhood what to do.
He's lost his occupation,
Let's sing in jubilation
For Sergeant William Bailey, too-ra-loo.

In 1916 Westminster had introduced conscription in Great Britain. Now it was about to be imposed in Ireland. Nationalists of every variety closed ranks to resist conscription. Dillon led his mps out of Westminster in protest. Catholic bishops described the Conscription Act as 'an oppressive and inhuman law which the Irish people have a right to resist by every means that are consonant with the law of God'. A general strike, highly effective in all parts of the country outside the north-east, paralysed transport.
In May 1918 the newly arrived viceroy, Lord French, announced the exis¬tence of a 'German Plot'. Police arrested seventy-three prominent Sinn F6iners. Knowing that it would only strengthen their cause, Sinn Fein activists still at large made no attempt to avoid arrest. In fact not a shred of solid evidence had been presented to show that Irish nationalists were conspiring with Imperial Germany.
Lloyd George gave up the unequal task, and, as Winston Churchill remarked, the government ended up with 'no law and no men'. Then, on the eleventh hour Of the eleventh day of the eleventh month of 1918, the Great War ended. It is estimated that 28,000 Irishmen had given their lives in the Allied cause.
A long overdue general election followed in December 1918. For the first lime all men aged twenty-one and over had the vote. Women—provided they were aged over thirty and were householders or married to householders—also got the vote. At a stroke the Irish electorate had been tripled. The 1918 election, proved to be the most momentous of the twentieth century.
Sinn Fein had a spectacular triumph: it won 73 seats. The Irish Party lay in ruins: it won only six seats, and four of these had been the result of an elec¬toral pact with Sinn Fein in Ulster. Helped by a much-needed redistribution of seats, Irish Unionists raised their representation from 18 to 26. Lloyd George's wartime coalition swept the boards across the Irish Sea; and of great significance for the future of Ireland was that now more than half of all MPs were Conservatives.
Countess Constance Markievicz had the honour of being the first woman ever elected to the House of Commons. But she, like all the Sinn Fein MPs, abstained from Westminster. Instead they convened on 21 January 1919 in Dublin's Mansion House as 'Dáil Eireann', the Assembly of Ireland. Reporters outnumbered the elected representatives, since thirty-four Sinn Fein mps still languished in jail. At that historic meeting the Dail unanimously approved a Declaration of Independence:

Whereas the Irish people is by right a free people:
And whereas for seven hundred years the Irish people has ... repeatedly protested in arms against foreign usurpation:
And whereas English rule in this country is ... based upon fraud and maintained by military occupation against the declared will of the people:
And whereas the Irish Republic was proclaimed in Dublin on Easter Monday, 1916, by the Irish Republican Army acting on behalf of the Irish people ...
Now, therefore, we, the elected Representatives of the ancient Irish people, do, in the name of the Irish nation, ratify the establishment of the Irish Republic....

Would the peacemakers in Paris also ratify the Irish Republic?