"all you are doing now is simply wriggling."
No I am not and now you are trying to resurrect something from the embers while at the same time avoiding all the main issues here.
It was quite obvious (except to those who would want to distort my point) that, from the beginning my objection was to Unionists, not to the population of the North in general, wherever they came from.
I pointed out earlier that, in my experience, the conflict was not between Catholics and Protestants (I am neither) but entirely due to the bowler-ghatted, besashed thugs fwose main role has been to incite hatred.
You, on the other hand, have shown no interest in the well-being of the Irish in general, but have thrown your full support behind militant, North Eastern Unionism (you can't even be bothered to respond to the fact that the North Eastern Unionists turned on those in the South just as viciously.
The Dog that Didn't Bark
Far from me wriggling, it is you who hasn't been able to exctract himself from your "Normans" stupidity are now trying to smear me with some of your own shit.
When Redmond's opposition to partition came up you immediately said that there was no reason to oppose it because of prehistoric Norman history.
No partitioned country partly answerable to another country can ever claim to be independent - ergo, you don't see why Ireland should be independent
Your exact words
"Irish nationalists can never be the assenting parties to the mutilation of the Irish nation. The two nation theory is to us an abomination and a blasphemy."

"Cannot really see why it should be such an abomination, they were never a united nation prior to the arrival of the Normans, they were a collection of small kingdoms. The USA at that time was and still is a Federal Union of individual sovereign states, the Dominion of Canada a Confederation of Provinces and Australia a Commonwealth of States."
Being very much in the minority in Ireland, they have as much right to a Protestant state than did the Confederacy in the U.S.
As I said - partition - no independence.
Now how about stopping "wriggling" and respond to the 'democratic' six Counties.
Jim Carroll