Did you not suggest that Ireland's history suggested that they had no grounds for claiming to be one nation?

Nope I clearly stated what Ireland's history was - they were never a nation and had no concept of what nationhood meant until after the Normans arrived. In 1914 to 1922 one political faction in Ireland (the smallest and least representative of them all in 1914) had no more right to coerce any other group than the British had. In 1921 Ireland as a united country was given its independence, one rather significant minority entirely off their own volition decided to remain within the UK - Self-determination, where and when have I argued against it? Or is this just more Jim Carroll "Made-Up-Shit"?

Did you not suggest that the only reason they did claim independence in the first place was because they were conned into doing so by the French and Spanish?

Nope. What I stated was that in the past dissident elements in Ireland were prompted into action, normally in the form of armed rebellion by promises of support from nations at war with either England or Great Britain. Those dissident elements were conned into believing those promises which never seemed to amount to much. Examples given were:

The Spanish during the Anglo-Spanish War during the reign of Elizabeth the First and James the First.

The French during the French Revolutionary Wars and the Napoleonic War

The Germans during the First World War, who to give them their due although asked to supply troops they declined (Primarily as they could not break the British Naval Blockade in sufficient force).

Have you not argued for a partitioned Ireland from the beginning of this debate?

Nope. I have attempted to point out to you that best efforts were made to stave off permanent partition, you have steadfastly insisted that permanent partition was offered to the Unionists by the British Government, yet you cannot come up with one single government document that supports that contention. You cannot produce one such document as none exists - in any discussion or document only temporary partition for a time limited period is mentioned. The only reason permanent partition came into being was because of the 1916 Rising and the 1919-1921 War of Independence.

Have you not argued that it is OK that six counties of (IRELAND - THAT IS WHAT IT IS - ONE IDENTIFIABLE COUNTRY) should remain under British rule under a regime that even divided those six counties into two warring groups, giving one group rights and privileges by law and depriving the other group of those rights and privileges, leading to permanent division, conflict and bloodshed?

I believe that it was OK for the duly constituted Parliament of Northern Ireland to exercise its right of self-determination under the terms of the Anglo-Irish Treaty and secede from The Irish Free State in 1922. For your information the Parliament of Northern Ireland did not vote to remain UNDER British rule - They opted to remain as an autonomous self-governing part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

As to the division, conflict and bloodshed - If you look back down through the decades and remove the instances where the source of the trouble came from half-arsed assaults from South of the border how much division, conflict and bloodshed would there have been?