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Thread #45911   Message #3794553
Posted By: Teribus
09-Jun-16 - 04:44 AM
Thread Name: BS: Easter Rising - April 24-29, 1916
Subject: RE: BS: Easter Rising - April 24-29, 1916
You have proved nothing, you have offered nothing in dispute on any of these things other than your own uncorroborated opinions no evidence, just unqualified statements and you have attempted to create smokescreens and set up 'straw dogs' to act as a diversion to you having to respond to the real facts..

Good heavens Jim, I'd no idea that prior to my birth that I had written the Government of Ireland Act 1914 and got it through Parliament and had it enacted into law.

Similarly with the following pieces of legislation passed by Parliament:

Parliament Act 1911
Army Act 1914
Defence of the Realm Act 1914
Military Service Act 1916
Government of Ireland Act 1920
Anglo-Irish Treaty 1921

So the above and the stated provisions therein are just "uncorroborated opinions no evidence, just unqualified statements"!!!

A question Jim do you EVER preview your posts and read the complete and utter crap that you write?

Had there been no rising there would have been no destruction or loss of life - that statement is true and blindingly obvious - the rising was brought about by SEVEN MEN who didn't even have the backing of their own organisations and who represented nobody but themselves. They couldn't even agree amongst themselves what form their united independent Ireland would take their views being so disparate.

You grab a handful of 'facts' and statistics out of the air, present them as gospel and arrogantly expect them to be accepted without question - you seldom, if ever produce links to what you say.
Fair play to Keith - he is noted for his scrabbling around to find something to fit his preconceived notions, inaccurate, out of context and invariably misunderstood as they usually are.


The facts are generally facts as are the statistics, not once have you been able to refute them.

They and the arguments I present are not presented as gospel, but are presented to refute ludicrous statements made by yourself and your pals and they are presented for you to refute by countering with what you think are the correct facts and statistics.

Keith A by and large does the same and guess what Jim, to date not one single example have you been able to come up with that disputes what either of us has said.

"your latest "no mortar in Sackville Street" was classic"

Yes Jim it is "classic" yet another example of more Carroll "Made-Up-Shit" - I think that if you scroll down to my post you will find that what I asked Rapparee to show me was where the CONCRETE was as that was the word used in the Irish Times witness statement he quoted.

Logic, reasoning, common sense and attention to detail are all sadly lacking in your posts, what they are heavily laced with is emotive claptrap founded on ill-informed, biased fiction and a totally subjective view on history.

On the 6th December 1922 The Irish Free State Constitution Act enacted by the British Government brought into being a 32 county United Independent Ireland.

On the 7th December 1922 six counties of that United Independent Ireland exercised their right of self-determination and opted out, deciding themselves to remain as part of the United Kingdom to create the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Their right to self-determination having been accepted and acknowledged by all signatories to the Anglo-Irish Treaty. So pray tell how did Great Britain who handed over 32 counties force through Partition. But of course you do not believe in right of self-determination for all do you? You believe that people should be coerced into political and economic unions against their will by force of arms.

C'mon Jim tell us all about how the UK forced the Republic of Ireland to drop its illegal constitutional territorial claim to Northern Ireland in 1998. Oh hang about that came to pass because of the result of a referendum where the actual wishes and desires of the Irish people were established - does that register Mr Carroll? The will of the people not the wishes of some little clique within a clique of a clique of delusional Republicans whose answer to the clearly stated desire of the Irish people was the Omagh bombing - just what on earth do you think they were thinking of, wouldn't your magnificent seven have been so proud of the way they'd followed in their footsteps.

"Evidence" you don't know the meaning of the word.