I am not exactly sure how this thread went from homophobia to "Jew"ophobia. I don't *think* they are connected. But what do I know? Anyway, back to the thread, which is already in progress...

I have been mulling the whole recent event over in my mind, and I think I have a clearer sense of it now. Yes, there is some conjecture on my part. But itsa discussion.

First off, it is a no-brainer that we need effective background checks before someone may buy a gun. That does not "take" anyone's gun away. It merely better guarantees that gun owners are not dangers to the community.

Second, no question that we need better mental health care. No question, whatsoever.

And third, no matter what religious command anyone may claim, it does not mean that the rest of the members of that denomination endorse her/his actions. The individual is responsible for what they did lock stock and barrel.

Now, that does not totally absolve other members of said denomination of any responsibility at all when they spew hatred and encourage persecution of anyone or group. But ultimately, the *individual* makes their own choice to do the deed. And the particular religion is not the "guilty party."

Those of us who are disinclined to persecuting others can help reduce the likelihood of more persecution by confronting any and all hate speech with light and kindness, not to mention good argument as to why such speech does not make lives better.

Meantime, the voices in my head are telling me to clean my guns, and "take out" some cellphone-talking-drivers. News at 11.

Saul