The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #160077 Message #3795770
Posted By: Joe Offer
14-Jun-16 - 11:27 PM
Thread Name: BS: Brothers, Sons, Fathers.
Subject: RE: BS: Brothers, Sons, Fathers.
Bobad, I think you need to take the time to listen to the speech by President Obama. You'll find it here:An excerpt from the New York Times article:Mr. Obama bitterly rejected criticism from Mr. Trump and other Republicans about his steadfast refusal to use the term "radical Islam" to describe the Islamic State, which is also known as ISIS or ISIL.
"If there's anyone out there who thinks we're confused about who our enemies are, that would come as a surprise to the thousands of terrorists who we've taken off the battlefield," Mr. Obama said at the Treasury. "There's no magic to the phrase 'radical Islam.' It's a political talking point. It's not a strategy."
Mrs. Clinton echoed the idea, asking pointedly in her speech: "Is Donald Trump suggesting that there are magic words that once uttered will stop terrorists from coming after us?"
The president said he would not use the wording because he was unwilling to give the Islamic State the victory of acceptance of its vision that it is the leader of a holy war between Islam and the West.
"If we fall into the trap of painting all Muslims with a broad brush and imply that we are at war with an entire religion, then we are doing the terrorists' work for them," Mr. Obama said.
Mr. Obama is scheduled to travel to Orlando on Thursday to visit with the surviving victims and the families of those killed in the rampage on Sunday morning. He was to have traveled to Wisconsin on Wednesday for his first campaign appearance with Mrs. Clinton since endorsing her last week, but the event was canceled in light of the shooting.
Still, Tuesday's one-two punch left little doubt that Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton plan to savage Mr. Trump on the campaign trail. The president was careful not to cast his criticism in political terms and never mentioned Mr. Trump's name even as he clearly targeted him — at one point referring derisively to "politicians who tweet" — and his policy proposals.
Instead, Mr. Obama spoke ominously of the stakes for the nation's security, and its very identity, if the ideas espoused by Mr. Trump and many in the Republican Party are widely accepted.
"We've gone through moments in our history before where we acted out of fear, and we came to regret it," Mr. Obama said. "We've seen our government mistreat our fellow citizens, and it has been a shameful part of our history."
I think we need to target our response. This attack, and the attack in San Bernardino, appear to have been committed by individual American citizens - Obama called them 'home-grown extremists" - who were influenced by the Islamic State, but not part of any network. It's clear that this massacre was not supported by the vast majority of Muslims.
I think it's also clear that there is no justification for civilians owning military weapons. While it's true that most shooting deaths are not caused by assault weapons, the firearms industry and the NRA have sent a constant message that it is a heroic thing for people to play soldier. This mindset needs to be stopped, and the banning of assault weapons will help accomplish that.
-Joe-