I was talking about the not unreal expectations of our young people Jim.......They are being discriminated against by having to climb a cliff before work.

Economic migrants are not living the sort of life our young people aspired to.....often they are young men with small families abroad they live rough and cheap.....who can blame them, but it should not be at the expense of a proper life for our children.

When I started out self employed I had to compete with others working for the same rates and with the same expenses and goals.

Today I could never compete on a financial basis with the Eastern European labour only gangs; most of the ones I have come across are certainly not tradesmen.