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Thread #160163   Message #3799944
Posted By: Teribus
12-Jul-16 - 08:47 AM
Thread Name: BS: Whither Scotland, Northern Ireland?
Subject: RE: BS: Whither Scotland, Northern Ireland?
"Nice and succinct Mac" says Jom - but Jom did you understand what it said? Somehow doubt it.

Like the British Cabinet says Jom let us examine it then:

The Prime Minister – an elected member of Parliament
First Secretary of State and Chancellor of the Exchequer – an elected member of Parliament
Home Secretary – an elected member of Parliament
Foreign Secretary – an elected member of Parliament
Work and Pensions Secretary – an elected member of Parliament
Defence Secretary – an elected member of Parliament
Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster – an elected member of Parliament
Health Secretary – an elected member of Parliament
Leader of the House of Commons – an elected member of Parliament
Justice Secretary – an elected member of Parliament
Education Secretary – an elected member of Parliament
Leader of the House of Lords – Former Civil Servant and Ambassador to the USA member of the House of Lords
Business, Innovation and Skills Secretary – an elected member of Parliament
Energy and Climate Change Secretary – an elected member of Parliament
Culture, Media and Sport Secretary – an elected member of Parliament
Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Secretary – an elected member of Parliament
International Development Secretary – an elected member of Parliament
Transport Secretary – an elected member of Parliament
Communities and Local Government Secretary – an elected member of Parliament
Northern Ireland Secretary – an elected member of Parliament
Wales Secretary – an elected member of Parliament
Scotland Secretary – an elected member of Parliament
Chief Secretary to the Treasury – an elected member of Parliament
Chief Whip – an elected member of Parliament
Minister for Small Business – an elected member of Parliament
Minister for Employment – an elected member of Parliament
Minister without Portfolio – an elected member of Parliament
Minister for the Cabinet Office and Paymaster General – an elected member of Parliament
Attorney General – an elected member of Parliament
Mayor of London – an elected official appointed by invitation does not attend full cabinet
Conservative Party Chairman – by invitation

So Jom although all Cabinet members are "appointed" all but two have been elected by their respective constituents, that amounts to just under 94% (Or %94 – as you seem to prefer it) of the Cabinet of the UK have been elected to represent the people by the voters in their constituencies, prior to being made members of Cabinet.

The EU Commission on the other-hand are all appointees put forward by their own governments, only the President is "selected" (Note "selected" not elected) subject to the approval of the EU Parliament.
The UK's last three EU Commissioners have never been elected to any public office in their lives, those from other countries are former Government ministers or civil servants. Their days of being elected by constituents was over long before their Governments "appointed" them as Commissioners to the EU, appointments that no-one can challenge. The EU Commissioners have the power of legislative initiative, i.e. they and only they have the power to introduce the legislation that governs the EU and not one single one of them have been elected to their office.

From the link supplied by MGOH and Jim Carroll -

"it is worth noting that legislative proposals in the EU almost always become law eventually."