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Thread #160163   Message #3800212
Posted By: Jim Carroll
14-Jul-16 - 03:44 AM
Thread Name: BS: Whither Scotland, Northern Ireland?
Subject: RE: BS: Whither Scotland, Northern Ireland?
"Talking of a load of complete and utter bollocks, anybody has the "right" to plan anything they want."
In the situation people find themseves in Britain today, people cannot afford to provide for themselves, particularly in the poorer parts of the country (basically outside the South-East soft underbelly)
That has long been recognised and is why a State system was established in the first place - if you don't understand that you must be living on another planet.
You brought up Scandinavia - a perfect example of the State and the Trades unions cooperating to ensure that working people are not left to weather recessions and economic downturns.
I am in no way putting forward Sweden as a perfect system, but it appears to have raised itself above the level of Britain's state barbarity as far as the poor are concerned
SWEDEN
That is not the case in post-Thatcher Britain, where, if you're out of work you're on your own.
The minimum legal wage does not allow poorer families to pay for back-up pension schemes - many families live below subsistence level and things are getting worse.
Thatchers home ownership con has even placed a question-mark over having somewhere to live.
All the schemes introduced by the Labour Government following W.W.2. and bitterly opposed by the Tories, have been gradually dismantled with the exception of the Health Service and that has been rendered virtually useless by under-funding, enforced bureaucracy aimed solely at saving money rather than improving services, and predatory drug companies.
The massive wealth gap in Britain is an indication that society is openly geared to giving the haves more and those in need less - the system no longer serves all of the people.
You have been given the facts of the wealth gap many times; you irst denied its enormity, then you went silent on it - as you do with all these awkward facts.
I don't give a fuck how long you worked in Scandinavia - the unemployment schemes are there to read up - you have a nasty habit of making claims you then refuse to back up with facts and expect us to swallow them - truth and accuracy is not one of your finer features.
One of the major benefits to being part of the E.U. is that, is you find yourself out of work, those in the position to do so are free to seek it outside their own countries - you twots have closed that door to the poor of Britain in order to satisfy your own bigotry.
British people do not "pull the stunt of living of the state - how fucking dare you denigrate working people who are having trouble finding work in a State that cannot provide it -
Have you ever tried living on the pittance that is paid out in unemployment benefit?
"Job Seekers Allowance for a single person is changed annually, and at August 3, 2012 the maximum payable was £71.00 per week for a person aged over 25 and £56.25 per week for a person aged 18–24.[29] The rules for couples where both are unemployed are more complex, but a maximum of £112.55 per week is payable, dependent on age and other factors. Income-based JSA is reduced for people with savings of over £6,000, by a reduction of £1 per week per £250 of savings, up to £16,000. People with savings of over £16,000 are not able to get IB-JSA at all.[30] The British system provides rent payments as part of a separate scheme called Housing Benefit."
I worked all my life in Britain, when I retired I was presented with the grand sum of £119.30 per week pension - the maximum.
Had we not lived in London and had a couple of incredibly lucky opportunities to buy our home and sell it when we moved, we would be living on that sum now.
The vast majorty of people did not have the opportunities we had,; I know that as a fact from the situation members of my family are facing.
Get a grip on reality
Jim Carroll