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Thread #160019   Message #3801000
Posted By: Stu
19-Jul-16 - 08:09 AM
Thread Name: BS: To Br/Exit Or Not To Br/Exit
Subject: RE: BS: To Br/Exit Or Not To Br/Exit
I fully accept the fact we're leaving the EU, so do most Remainers. What I don't accept is that the Brexiteers should have full control over how this is achieved, as they have no more right to negotiate on the nation's behalf than anyone else and have showed a certain lack of rigour and nuance in the campaign (although the Gov't wasn't a whole lot better). As the Brexiteers also seem to hate the experts we need to negotiate the deals we will have to make then it is essential we have a range of positions in our teams.

"it would be a two way street and that as they sold more to us than we did to them then we would gain in any tariff war"

A tariff war? Why provoke such a reaction? It would be rash to go into any negotiations with such an arrogant attitude as the Brexiteers seem to display. We know you hate foreigners, but you have to work with them and that includes the Europeans. Belligerent Little Britaineers being all bluster and puffy chested are the last thing we need, and most of the country has moved on from such anachronistic attitudes. In the real world we're not an empire any more, just one more nation becoming more insular and more isolationist.


"Because the EU negotiating machinery is too cumbersome and too complicated each of the EU's 28 member states have to individually agree before a deal is made"

Precisely the reason why the Brexit negotiations won't be the walkover the Brexiteers seem to think they will be. Our negotiating position is not as strong as some of us were led to believe, and the idea we will have access to the single market without the free movement is a fantasy, pure and simple.

Life is far more complex and unpredictable than some of your erstwhile leaders would have you believe. This will be long, drawn out and probably rather painful.