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Thread #159827   Message #3803140
Posted By: Jim Carroll
02-Aug-16 - 03:57 AM
Thread Name: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
"The thread title is what Carroll?"
My title is what shithead?
"Has Britain got a "racist" Foreign Secretary? "
Yes - his racist statements make him a racist - nothing to do with what I think
JOHNSON the RACIST
Not racist to those who agree with him, of which, I have no doubt, you are one.
"Big fan of Political Party "cover-ups" are you Jom?"
I've given my reasons why I agree with the decision, if it was a cover up, it would have been condemned widely by the press.
You have refused to comment on the Party wide cover up of the racism and Islamophobia in the Tory Party, so I assume you are.
"Ehmmmm Jom, "
Ehmmmm, or resident little Fuehrer
"You most certainly have "made stuff up"2
Prove it - with links - get somebody to show you how to make one.
"you said that during the Great War Lord Kitchener was forced to resign."
Kitchener was forced to offer his resignation after is causing the death of British soldiers by having the wrong shells sent
"The admitted fact is that Lord Kitchener ordered the wrong kind of shell – the same kind of shell which he used largely against the Boers in 1900. He persisted in sending shrapnel – a useless weapon in trench warfare..... He alone was to advise the government and issue orders to commanders in the field. Kitchener's authority was more or less reduced to matters of manpower and recruitment.
As he himself put it, he was 'curtailed to feeding and clothing the army'. [23] The same men who had dragged Kitchener into the War Office in 1914 had effectively stripped him of his power but did not want his resignation. Each time he offered or threatened to resign, Asquith persuaded him that it was his duty to serve the King. [24] Essentially, Kitchener provided a buffer between the prime minister and his critics. Why did he not force the issue and resign, despite Asquith's insistence that he stayed? Kitchener was a proud man, yet he stood stripped of meaningful power like a glorified quartermaster. "

KITCHENER'S LETHAL BLUNDERING
- overstated maybe, but far from "made up" - your's and you mate's idiocy makes it unnecessary to make anything up, even if we were so inclined.
You, on the other hand, make up virtually every one of your claims, which is why you refuse to verify them with real information.
"Anglophobia"
You are the one who despises the British people by describing them lazy scroungers and demand they be forced to be turned into an itinerant work force and forced to live in - what exactly - tent towns, hostels, sleeping in the park... ? You refuse to share that pearl of wisdom
You also despise British achievements by describing British industry as "crap" and unworthy of support and insisting that we have to buy abroad.
The only respect you have for Britain is for the predatory rich, the monarch and the military (of which, you claim somewhat unbelievably, to have been one) - that is not Britain - it's just the decorative trimmings, the State mechanism and the hangers on.
Your insistence that the interests of the people must be subservient to The State is by definition, what makes you the Fascist you are.
"And I suggested all this when Jom? "
You didn't - Keith did
My remarks were addressed to him, if you managed to conquor your illiteracy and read what is written, you would know that - it's been pointed out often enough.
Surprisingly, the Universe does not revolve around what you have to say - you are a very unimportant incidental to these discussions - you are merely an unbelievably nasty and unstable irritant who is largely tolerated by a fairly easy-going group of people.
I was amused when you claimed that armaments was your thing - it brought back memories of your boastfully producing a photograph of your penis-substitute gun on the Homs (I think) thread - little more than an underdeveloped 'Good ol' Boy' at heart
Enough of these pleasantries - if you have any real evidence of a cover-up or antisemitism in the Labour Party, produce it (with evidence) - your one-man claims have ceased to be entertaining (in a bizarre way) and have now become somewhat tedious
What is that Antisemitism - how many are involved - where can we find that information - who else makes these claims - how do they compare to the racism, cover-up of Islamophobia - the bullying and the misogyny of the Tory Party?
I've responded to all your points - let's see how you go with these?
If you don't provide accompanying information, I really can't be arsed responding any more - I've had enough of your blustering bullshit   
Jim Carroll