I have heard all that before, Stu, and I don't believe it. I have seen videos of your Parliament, and I cannot understand how it can be a place for reasonable discussion. I see value in expressing an idea that I may not completely espouse, simply to put it on the table for discussion. It should be one of many ideas to be considered. But if all ideas are attacked as soon as they are expressed, many good ideas get lost in the battle. I cannot believe that combat is a good technique for constructive and fair discussion. I'm sure many British Mudcatters agree with me.