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Thread #159827   Message #3808924
Posted By: Teribus
08-Sep-16 - 08:03 AM
Thread Name: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
Jim Carroll - 08 Sep 16 - 06:18 AM

"you are appeasing the massacre of 3,500 unarmed civilians, fully investigated and documented."


Only problem with that statement Jom is that the 3,500 number is an unverified estimate. No investigation into the numbers killed was ever allowed by the Lebanese Government let alone completed, therefore it would be impossible for anything related to these killings to ever be fully documented as you claim.

Source:

https://un-truth.com/tag/sabra-and-shatila

Extract:

"In terms of casualties, no census of the dead has ever been attempted {That is a bit different from what you are stating as an absolute fact isn't it Jom?}. In the days following the massacre, the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) and other relief agencies collected the bodies and disinterred the shallow graves, giving survivors the chance to identify relatives. But efforts to establish lists of the dead soon fell victim to the priority of 'national reconciliation'. Bashir Gemayel's brother Amin was elected president of the republic on 21 September (with the Muslim deputies this time participating in the vote), and the Phalange role was soon downplayed or even ignored, exclusive blame being placed on Saad Haddad's men and Israel.

"After going through the motions in October of appointing a commission of inquiry, whose findings were never released, the subject of the massacre was virtually dropped. Any effort to collect names became virtually taboo, to the point that the ICRC has never published the names it did collect, and those conducting field work on the subject had to do so with extreme discretion. Such was the climate that even death certificates became almost impossible to obtain.

"Nonetheless, there were a number of estimates in the days following the massacre. According to official Lebanese sources published in mid-October 1982, 762 bodies had been recovered in Sabra and Shatila: 212 unidentified bodies reburied in mass graves, 302 bodies identified and cremated by local rescue teams, and 248 identified and buried by the ICRC. In addition, according to the same sources, about 1,200 bodies were claimed and buried by their families.