"In the face of masses of evidence you have been given, eye witness accounts, press reports, inquiries, you say no evidence of Israel's culpability in the massacre has been produced"

1: Carroll you wouldn't recognise what actually does fall into what is acceptable as "Evidence" if it jumped up and bit you.

2: Judging by what she herself has written your Jewish "eye witness" actually saw very little, much of what she does claim would be classified as hearsay and surmise - not admissible as "evidence".

3: Press reports are notoriously inaccurate, biased and unreliable - not evidence.

4: Inquiries? Kahan Commission stated that Israel was indirectly responsible, MacBride Inquiry stated that Israel was Probably" indirectly responsible - probably infers a fair degree of what in an English Court of law would constitute "Reasonable Doubt" in any criminal action. So here we have the Israeli Inquiry into the events at Sabra-Shatila more damning than the International Inquiry. There have been no thorough investigations undertaken into the events at Sabra-Shatila, the Lebanese put a cap on them and forbade any investigations. Your figure of 3,500 dead is an unverified guestimate at best, certainly not the authenticated, verified and documented figure that you originally put forward. Your sports stadium with it's "secret" mass grave has been sitting there for anybody to examine for decades - tell us why it has not been opened and examined?

5: Keith A is perfectly correct no cast iron solid evidence of Israeli involvement has ever been produced and no rock solid irrefutable evidence has ever been offered up that shows them to be directly responsible for what happened. The UN wanted the IDF out of Beirut and out of South Lebanon, to comply with this the IDF therefore had to hand over to someone, the largest faction to had over to were the coalition of militias known as the "Lebanese Forces". When Arafat scuttled out of the Lebanon he was supposed to have taken ALL of his "fighters" with him - he didn't.