Steve Shaw - 02 Oct 16 - 07:55 PM

Often wondered Steve of the 12,509 posts since 13.05.2007 if the idea ever crossed your mind to shut your mouth just to give your arse a chance?

I haven't a clue as to whether Stanron or anyone else voted for leaving the EU because they are delusional, though the only possible alternative to it is that they have a personal vested interest in getting out.

So anyone who voted to Leave was either delusional or selfishly looking after their own interests were they? Of course the latter is by no means the "only possible alternative" not by a long shot. It would appear that Stanron, Senoufou and myself all voted Leave because we thought that it was in the best long term interests of the country.

"The vast majority of people, Stanron and Senoufou included for all I know, fell for a pack of lies about how much the EU "costs" us Blah, Blah, Blah"

Incontrovertible fact though Shaw is that the EU DOES COST US {I personally do not care by how much, that is irrelevant}, and over the years diktat from Brussels has sought to harm us economically to deliberately benefit Germany and France. Every prediction and every piece of "Doom'n'Gloom" spread by the "Remnain" campaign has proven worthless even the supposed rise in "Hate Crimes" which has it's origins in a misreported story from a Seminar that took place four days after the results of the referendum was known.

"Take away those packs of lies from the argument and there is not one rational reason on earth for voting to leave."

I can think of several, but foremost is after leaving we will not be subject to laws being imposed upon us without considered debate in our national Parliament. Oh and as for:

"I'd remind yiu that, of the thousands of EU laws that have been passed down the decades, the UK has adopted almost all of them enthusiastically."

I'd remind you that they were all adopted because the UK as a member had no other choice. Once we have left our laws are our own, though of by us for our own benefit, debated by us and us alone and imposed by us and us alone, and should they prove to be in error Shaw they can then be repealed by us and us alone.