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Thread #160727   Message #3813715
Posted By: Jim Carroll
10-Oct-16 - 04:29 AM
Thread Name: BS: What does 'anti-semitism' mean?
Subject: RE: BS: What does 'anti-semitism' mean?
"In your opinion, but what is that worth?"
We are here to discuss opinions and produce facts Keith
I have produced both - you refuse even to tell us what the accusations of Antisemitism are and are totally relying on your own interpretation of the opinions of others.
Antismitism is the insulting, denigration and persecution of the Jewish People - where in any of this has any of these people ever done this?
You refuse to qualify your accusations by specifying them - then there is no case to answer.
What jury in Britain would ever deliver a guilty verdict on the basis of, "I don't actually know the nature of the crime committed but somebody told me it has been so it must be true?
This is the basis of your case and it is lynch-mob mentality.
You make your case by telling us what these people have done, not what people say they have done.
The fact that Livingstone is still under suspension its totally immaterial - he is not guilty until he has been found so.
A "serious issue."
If you think that three people who have been accused of antisemitism for criticising the Israeli government and have yet to be found guilty of the charge, out of a membership of a quarter of a million is "a serious issue", you are living on a different planet than the rest of us.
You continue to defend a statement of the Israeli Minister who claims that it is Antisemitic to criticise Israeli policy
She said what she said, you have had it put up numerous times, it has been interpreted a#by the world press exactly as I have described - the implications of what she said was the reason it hit the world headlines - yet you still deny it.
I really don't think we can go any further with this.
"It would, and it will if such a thing ever happens. You really are making up shit again now Jim."
You've deied making these claims Keith - now you are at it again.
This is old news
I do not "make things up", - nor do I expect an apology or a withdrawal from you.
Netanyahu appoints Ayelet Shaked—who called for genocide of Palestinians
Translation from the Washington Post
The leftist site Mondoweiss offers a full translation of Shaked's controversial posting, which quotes Elitzur, a former Netanyahu adviser, here. Some excerpts:
The Palestinian people has declared war on us, and we must respond with war. Not an operation, not a slow-moving one, not low-intensity, not controlled escalation, no destruction of terror infrastructure, no targeted killings. Enough with the oblique references. This is a war. Words have meanings. This is a war. It is not a war against terror, and not a war against extremists, and not even a war against the Palestinian Authority. These too are forms of avoiding reality. This is a war between two people. Who is the enemy? The Palestinian people. Why? Ask them, they started...
"Behind every terrorist stand dozens of men and women, without whom he could not engage in terrorism. Actors in the war are those who incite in mosques, who write the murderous curricula for schools, who give shelter, who provide vehicles, and all those who honor and give them their moral support. They are all enemy combatants, and their blood shall be on all their heads. Now this also includes the mothers of the martyrs, who send them to hell with flowers and kisses. They should follow their sons, nothing would be more just. They should go, as should the physical homes in which they raised the snakes. Otherwise, more little snakes will be raised there."
"If that is true, give an example."
CRITICIZING ISRAEL IS THE NEW ANTISEMITISM
Jim Carroll