Keith, if you want this thread to not be about Israel, there is something you have to stop doing. You have to stop rattling on about Israel, telling us straight after you've done that that it isn't about Israel. You're trying to have the last word. You've done that three times in the last 24 hours. It's laughable, Keith.

Unfortunately, and I know it makes you feel uncomfortable (because we know from your long track record that you think that criticism of Israel is antisemitic even though you keep telling us that you don't think it), a discussion of antisemitism in the present context is not possible without bringing Israel, or at least the regime and its supporters, into it. The strongest voices condemning criticism of Israeli policy and claiming that we're deliberately confusing anti-Zionism with antisemitism are coming out of Israel. Much of the controversy over what is and what isn't antisemitism is coming either from Israel or elements of the pro-Israel lobby (including, in the UK, Labour Friends of Israel, for example). That is for you in your discomfort to address and it is not for you to keep trying to shut us up about Israel all the time.