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Thread #158168   Message #3819779
Posted By: Teribus
11-Nov-16 - 03:25 AM
Thread Name: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
gnu - 10 Nov 16 - 05:11 PM

There is a big difference between saying "bomb the shit out of ISIS" (which is what has been going on for a while now with little effect as that is the desired outcome, if you haven't noticed) and putting 300,000 troops on alert in Europe because the Russian Bear did to ISIS in less than a week what the US and the rest did in over two years. The US bombs hospitals and whatever... no problem. The Russians do it (MAYBE... was it the Saudis?)... WAR CRIMES!"


1: The "bomb the shit out of ISIS" (which is what has been going on for a while now with little effect as that is the desired outcome, if you haven't noticed) thing would look pretty good if you had done some research and actually had read about it gnu:

(a) At the time they first decided to engage in the air campaign against ISIS targets it applied only in support of the Iraqi government. Going after specific targets inside Syria came much later.

(b) At the time they first decided to engage in the air campaign against ISIS they stated quite clearly that it would take time.

(c) At the time they first decided to engage in the air campaign against ISIS they stated clearly that to defeat ISIS and drive them out of the territory they occupied it required a ground element that could only be provided by the Iraqi's and Kurds themselves.

2: "putting 300,000 troops on alert in Europe because the Russian Bear did to ISIS in less than a week what the US and the rest did in over two years."

Putting 300,000 NATO troops on alert in Europe has got S.F.A. to do with either the POTUS or what Russia is doing in Syria. Decision taken by Jens Stoltenberg the Secretary General of NATO probably has something to do with Russian moving nuclear armed missiles into Kallingrad. Oh by the way the Russian Bear's target of choice in Syria has and always will be Syrian civilians in rebel held areas.

3: "The US bombs hospitals and whatever... no problem. The Russians do it (MAYBE... was it the Saudis?)... WAR CRIMES!"

In the former there is a full and open independent investigation and admission of fault and regret - In the latter there is blank denial until the weight of evidence produced to demonstrate otherwise id so overwhelming that it can no longer be denied.

Bulk of Russian airstrikes have been against targets inside the Syrian city of Aleppo - there are no ISIS forces in Aleppo.

When ISIS were attacking the Syrian Kurdish city of Kobane there were no Russian airstrikes against ISIS targets in the area.